
As part of yesterday's Ask the Developer Vol. 16 Nintendo Switch 2, the console's designers were asked a whole bunch of in-depth questions about various technical aspects of their new baby.
One of the more interesting parts of the interview was when they discussed redesigning the Switch, and all of its component parts, from scratch.
Now, we all know how bothersome the Joy-Con stick drift situation was, and has continued to be over the years. It's not something that ever really got solved very neatly, and so we found ourselves immediately gravitating towards part two of this interview, where Kouichi Kawamoto, the Switch 2's producer, is asked about the Joy-Con specifically, he responds;
"We redesigned everything from scratch for Joy-Con 2...Compared to the Joy-Con controllers for Switch, the control sticks are larger and more durable, with smoother movement. We’ve also made Joy-Con 2 bigger to match the larger console.
If we simply stretched Switch system's Joy-Con vertically, they'd end up being very difficult to hold, as your fingers wouldn’t be able to reach the L and R Buttons and they wouldn’t fit the shape of your palms. That’s why we lengthened the L and R Buttons, rounded off the bottom corners, and experimented with various placements of the control sticks and buttons, right down to the millimeter or less, to arrive at the shape and layout we have now."
On the sticks themselves, as Kawamoto says, they are better, more durable. However, there is still no concrete answer on whether or not Hall-effect sticks - that's some real fancy sticks, if you're not au fait - the exact type fans have been begging for, have made the cut in these new controllers. Kawamoto was very enthusiastic about the new Pro controller's sticks too, saying they were much more "smooth-gliding".
However, we will, of course, need to wait until we get our hands on the console and its controllers for ourselves to know for sure, but redesigning something from the ground up and leaving its biggest, and most glaring, issue un-fixed. Surely not suited to the Nintendo seal of approval!
Do you think the overhaul of the Joy-Con controllers will lead to the end of Stick Drift? Let us know!
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I am fortunate that only my og set and one spatoon neon controller drifted so I haven’t had the issue for most of my day 1 switch’s lifetime. Still, happy Nintendo went back to the drawing board to address fears. I feel they fixed the actual issue years ago though.
You would hope there's no risk of stick drift, I'm still kind of shocked they let the issue go on throughout the whole Switch lifespan as they did, it's honestly not acceptable to have an issue like that be so common.
I was hoping for hall-effect sticks, maybe it's not the case if they haven't mentioned it, Nintendo seem to be going into more technical details with this reveal than they normally do so I'd have thought they'd mention it. There's lots of much cheaper emulation handhelds getting released with hall-effect, so I wouldn't have thought it would be a problem for Nintendo to implement, but if these new sticks are reliable and feel good to use then that's all that matters, whether they're hall-effect or not.
I always found with my OG joy on that drop out and ghost button pushes were more frequent than the joystick drift
If they had hall-effect sticks they'd have that info up-front and center. Improving on crappy sticks won't move the needle much.
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I stand corrected, you love to see it. 😃
If they were Hall effect sticks, surely they would’ve said so by now, no?
@Lenzo My understanding is that acknowledging the hall effect could possibly open them up to liability in that they'd be officially acknowledging the drift issue? Not sure if that's true but kinda makes sense. Nonetheless, hope whatever the issue was, it's resolved now.
i doubt nintendo would acknowledge hall effect by name even if they did use it theyd call it something else entirely in classic nintendo form
My PC Handheld Legion Go have hall effect sticks unlike other PC handhelds.
My original left joy-con, two pro controllers, Wii U gamepad, and a couple GameCube controllers all have stick problems. I'm not going to believe anything's changed unless the new ones last through the end of the next generation.
I have over 2,000 hours on my original joy cons and no drift on either one.
Oh. Those strap bits still exist. I hope they aren't mandatory for the mouse functionality to work.
I’ve had the worst luck with stick drift. I’ve replaced at least 4 sticks with standard parts. But when the issue resurfaced last year I purchased Hall effect replacement sticks for 2 of my joy-cons. So far so good 👍
I think it will be fine. Stick drift was less common as time went on anyway. So if they improved them further then they'll.probably be fine.
Like a few others have said they might simply not be saying the words hall effect for liability reasons or just wanting to use their own variant that they gave their own name and treating it as secret tech.
It's also possible the magnetic connectors made them unable to also use hall effect and they chose improved connection over hall effect.
However I've heard at least one leaker claims to have seen inside one and seen what looked like hall effect so unless they lied that is supposedly confirmed.
We'll have to wait and see but I doubt it will be a notable issue.
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